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#401
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Да нивапрос. Твоя позиция- любые наезды на нацинальной почве- суть проявление тупой быдловатости.
Верно?


Кратко если - нет. в общем, оффтоп уже пошёл. Можно продолжить в другом месте при желании.
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I think some of the fault for that lies with the Russian community. If you guys didn't form all Russian corps and alliances, people wouldn't use "Russian" as a shortcut to talking about one of your pilots. I'm still not sure I understand why that phrase bothers you, though. In English, calling someone a Russian doesn't have any negative meaning. If they were calling you "commies" or "russkis" or something, I would understand, but I don't see why that upsets you. Maybe you can explain it?

You are right that I don't understand. If I blow up someone's ship, I say that I killed them. If they are in Guillotine Therapy (Rooks and King's French corp), I say that I killed some Frenchmen. If they are in Temnava Legion, I killed some Croatians. Saying that I killed some Russians doesn't mean I *actually* killed them, and it doesn't even mean I dislike them.

Is it the "killed" part you don't like? Or is it identifying pilots by their nationality?

Let me be captain obvious for a while. "Russian" corps and alliances are not populated only by people from russia or russians as a nation - they are formed from people capable of speaking and understanding russian (thats five to ten countries and dosen or two nations). Yet you think of them all as russians. I'm sure you can understand how french pilot (who takes pride in his nation) may take offence if he is considered english, only becouse main language of his alliance is english and when people say its actually his fault, becouse english people are making "english only" corps and alliances.
For me its much more important that while i'm minmatar i often have to fly caldari/amarr ships :m0201:
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You are right that I don't understand. If I blow up someone's ship, I say that I killed them. If they are in Guillotine Therapy (Rooks and King's French corp), I say that I killed some Frenchmen. If they are in Temnava Legion, I killed some Croatians. Saying that I killed some Russians doesn't mean I *actually* killed them, and it doesn't even mean I dislike them.

Is it the "killed" part you don't like? Or is it identifying pilots by their nationality?

After USSR collapse word "russkiy" (Russian) and especially word "rossiyanin" (citizen of Russia), which partially replaced "russkiy", causes inexplicable butthurt. First word causes bitter regret about lost empire and second word can't be taken seriously coz now we have every man for himself and no whole nation, and sometimes is used as a foul expression :) National identity dropped to to the level of times of feudal fragmentation, when mongols whipped tens of russian princedoms one by one.

PS don't waste your time arguing with forum bots :mp_gy:

Сообщение отредактировал Nares: 02 March 2012 - 6:35

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*sigh*
if twostep thinks that its ok to kill russians, so be it.
and those people think that its something bad to read david duke.
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Так вот однажды неподалеку от Гренландии довелось мне увидеть невероятную картину: собаку, плывущую с палкой в зубах вдоль Гольфстрима. Именно тогда познал я наибольшее удивление в жизни.

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Let me be captain obvious for a while. "Russian" corps and alliances are not populated only by people from russia or russians as a nation - they are formed from people capable of speaking and understanding russian (thats five to ten countries and dosen or two nations). Yet you think of them all as russians. I'm sure you can understand how french pilot (who takes pride in his nation) may take offence if he is considered english, only becouse main language of his alliance is english and when people say its actually his fault, becouse english people are making "english only" corps and alliances.
For me its much more important that while i'm minmatar i often have to fly caldari/amarr ships :m0201:


This is an excellent point, and I didn't really consider it. Thanks for bringing it up.

I'll try to use "Russian-speaking" instead of "Russian" in the future.
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There is any word about bots. It's pity. I think bots are curse of EVE and this game needs in banhummer or it will die. So if someone doesn't care about bots he is a foe for eve-community. Does we need such person in CSM?
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я всегда знаю, как надо лучше

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There is any word about bots. It's pity. I think bots are curse of EVE and this game needs in banhummer or it will die. So if someone doesn't care about bots he is a foe for eve-community. Does we need such person in CSM?


I didn't mention bots because I assume that every single person running for CSM is against them. The CSM has very limited powers to do anything against bots, CCP doesn't even fill us in on the full details of what they are doing.

I do mention botting and python injection on my blog from last year, you can find that post here
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every single person running for CSM is against them.

but as we all know some of CSM members are main isk-sellers and bot-holders. Don't you think so? And what did you do to stop this?
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я всегда знаю, как надо лучше

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but as we all know some of CSM members are main isk-sellers and bot-holders. Don't you think so? And what did you do to stop this?


Awesome, please tell me who is selling isk and running bots. I assume you also have some evidence to go along with that? I'll make sure to pass that on, and the people will get banned. :unsure:

I don't think any of the current CSM members are selling ISK or running bots. Perhaps some of them know people who are doing those things, but I don't know that for sure either. It isn't *my* job to do anything at all to stop it. That is CCP's job.
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Сообщение отредактировал Kregg: 22 August 2013 - 11:42

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А ты давай, жри макдональдс, пей колу, люби всех.

для того чобы иметь хотябы представление о чем тустеп говорит совсем необязательно есть бургер и запивать колой, достаточно было не прогуливать в школе уроки английского языка. не так ли ? (отмазы в стиле "да я в школе учил немецкий\французский\испанский\итальянски можеш даже тут не постить дабы не выглядеть в глазах окружающих еще глупее (мне папа сказал что нада ити учить французский потомучто он потом будет тру !!!! а вы лузеры идите английский учить он потом никому будет ненужен !))
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Сообщение отредактировал Kregg: 22 August 2013 - 11:43

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#413
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Voting is now open. Go to http://community.eve.../Vote.asp?c=427 to vote directly for me. Thanks for the support!

Голосование уже открыта. К http://community.eve.../Vote.asp?c=427 голосовать прямо на меня. Спасибо за поддержку!
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Не чувак, извини, но у нас своих хватает. Я лучше за Дича проголосую пойду B)
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Не чувак, извини, но у нас своих хватает. Я лучше за Дича проголосую пойду B)


ну да, у вас там своих хватает ;)



Сообщение отредактировал Ali On: 07 March 2012 - 19:20

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ну да, у вас там своих хватает ;)

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Hi Two step

You got my vote, but dont break WH by things such as new static wholes in C4-C5 and etc. Just fix current problems - T3, POSes, etc. WH is another world and keep it as it is please.

Thank you.
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Hi Two step

You got my vote, but dont break WH by things such as new static wholes in C4-C5 and etc. Just fix current problems - T3, POSes, etc. WH is another world and keep it as it is please.

Thank you.


Thanks for your support!

My first priority is getting CCP to fix things like POSes. Assuming that happens, then we can talk about what CCP should do next for w-space.
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Я долго думал.
Я не люблю корпу Тустепа. К(арфаген)162 должен быть разрушен. Неприязнь мне долго мешала, но я все-же принял решение.
Я проголосую за Тустепа всеми своими 9ю чарами. Пусть он будет в ЦСМ. Его программа в меру консервативна, и направлена не на революционные перетрясы, а на эволюционное допиливание шероховатостей. Я уже не юн и все больше консерватор.
Нам короч по пути.
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Если Твидл постит. Значит Твидл пьян неслабо.

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