[ 2013.08.29 20:28:38 ] Alhana Starrbreeze > Hello, ofc
[ 2013.08.29 20:29:13 ] Equinox Daedalus > haven't had much contact with you been meaning to /looking for starscream or gree as i've spoken/been shot at/shoot at them before
[ 2013.08.29 20:29:56 ] Alhana Starrbreeze >
[ 2013.08.29 20:30:00 ] Equinox Daedalus > anyways we (provi) were approaced by init about a few systems around the zq area that they said you guys were not interested in and asked if we wanted them, which i assumed they had cleared with you before hand.
[ 2013.08.29 20:31:13 ] Equinox Daedalus > figured if you didn't want them didn't mind then ofc probally woudl be fine to finish the loop around that area and speak to you about other systems there that init didn't have
[ 2013.08.29 20:31:59 ] Equinox Daedalus > anyways i heard people got shot so i donno who or what was said to you
[ 2013.08.29 20:32:32 ] Alhana Starrbreeze > Initiative knew about us and they have deceived you. They knew about catch what we gonna take all region
[ 2013.08.29 20:33:21 ] Alhana Starrbreeze > Volt spoke with me and i said what i dont want to share the catch with someone else
[ 2013.08.29 20:33:37 ] Alhana Starrbreeze > And they tryed to ninja our system
[ 2013.08.29 20:33:44 ] Alhana Starrbreeze > today
[ 2013.08.29 20:33:53 ] Equinox Daedalus > well who did you speak to in volt?
[ 2013.08.29 20:34:20 ] Equinox Daedalus > and wasn't my intent anyways as i said from my dealings i'd assumed they had cleared it with you before hand.
[ 2013.08.29 20:35:12 ] Alhana Starrbreeze > Hidetoshi Rushd
[ 2013.08.29 20:35:33 ] Alhana Starrbreeze > I told him what we will take it
[ 2013.08.29 20:38:20 ] Equinox Daedalus > k so you wouldn't be willing to seed us g-a and let us take ul from kadeshi ?
[ 2013.08.29 20:39:35 ] Equinox Daedalus > i always have to clean up everyone elses messes it seems
[ 2013.08.29 20:39:41 ] Equinox Daedalus > i will never get to have any fun at this rate
[ 2013.08.29 20:41:45 ] Rasta Bigboom > Hello equinox
[ 2013.08.29 20:41:48 ] Equinox Daedalus > o/
[ 2013.08.29 20:41:54 ] Equinox Daedalus > ahh black aces someone i know
[ 2013.08.29 20:42:03 ] Rasta Bigboom > Nods
[ 2013.08.29 20:42:16 ] Rasta Bigboom > <----Hawkcrest
[ 2013.08.29 20:42:19 ] Equinox Daedalus > ugh
[ 2013.08.29 20:42:24 ] Equinox Daedalus > /emote quits convo then
[ 2013.08.29 20:42:24 ] Rasta Bigboom > :-)
[ 2013.08.29 20:43:00 ] Rasta Bigboom > Heres the deal Equi....Alhana spoke to the Volt FC and clearly told him that -A- will be using all of Catch this time around
[ 2013.08.29 20:43:11 ] Rasta Bigboom > they had a long conversation about this
[ 2013.08.29 20:43:15 ] Equinox Daedalus > kk
[ 2013.08.29 20:43:27 ] Rasta Bigboom > even after this was understood they attempted to claim the system
[ 2013.08.29 20:43:33 ] Rasta Bigboom > and they fired on our TCU
[ 2013.08.29 20:43:40 ] Equinox Daedalus > well a. i didn't know of such covno atleast.
[ 2013.08.29 20:43:41 ] Rasta Bigboom > and attmpted to drop thier own
[ 2013.08.29 20:43:57 ] Equinox Daedalus > woudln't of approved/wasn't really what we would of wanted anyways.
[ 2013.08.29 20:44:15 ] Rasta Bigboom > Gree and I discussed you, and we are aware that neiother Severance nor CVA had anything to dow ith it
[ 2013.08.29 20:44:36 ] Equinox Daedalus > well i did say to hide that if init had cleared it with -a- that would be fine.
[ 2013.08.29 20:44:48 ] Equinox Daedalus > thats all i said on the matter tbh as i hadn't talked to you was looking for gree for a few days
[ 2013.08.29 20:45:09 ] Equinox Daedalus > as i didn't know alahana all that well
[ 2013.08.29 20:45:26 ] Rasta Bigboom > Alhana is our alliance leader
[ 2013.08.29 20:46:07 ] Rasta Bigboom > as it stands Southern Coalition has allocated -A- less space this time around due to the changes that occured over the last year and change
[ 2013.08.29 20:46:08 ] Equinox Daedalus > yeah i know i saw
well usually look for people i know 1st atleast to get a feel, if you want those systems we can get just sort the drop and such that shouldn't be an issue.
[ 2013.08.29 20:46:17 ] Rasta Bigboom > the space we will hold is feyth and Catch
[ 2013.08.29 20:46:32 ] Rasta Bigboom > Alhana has stated that all of Catch will be held by -A-
[ 2013.08.29 20:47:11 ] Rasta Bigboom > we have no wish to encroach on CVA Providence, however we would like to lay out some punishment on VOLT and Apoc now for thier part in recent events
[ 2013.08.29 20:47:48 ] Rasta Bigboom > Gree informed me he has been developing good relations with Servance and CVA of late
[ 2013.08.29 20:48:09 ] Equinox Daedalus > well yes a few people have talked with him i just have missed him unfortunately
[ 2013.08.29 20:48:47 ] Rasta Bigboom > so in the intrests of a future freindship, of course we will continue to shoot at each other, but with the understanding that he who screws with CVA will answer to us, and we would expect some ricipocation
[ 2013.08.29 20:48:49 ] Equinox Daedalus > well don't think apoc /are a lead on antyhign.
[ 2013.08.29 20:49:00 ] Equinox Daedalus > you lose anything?
[ 2013.08.29 20:49:14 ] Rasta Bigboom > nothing that we cant replace
[ 2013.08.29 20:49:29 ] Rasta Bigboom > we are not talking about taking thier space, simply laying a bit of smackdown
[ 2013.08.29 20:49:46 ] Equinox Daedalus > well not the point tbh goodwill is goodwil and your free to shoot them all you like same as always, thats not what i mean :0
[ 2013.08.29 20:49:46 ] Rasta Bigboom > of course they will have to withdrawl from catch
[ 2013.08.29 20:49:53 ] Rasta Bigboom > and Im sure they wont be happy about that
[ 2013.08.29 20:50:39 ] Rasta Bigboom > atm, we have our hands full re-grinding catch, but the time will come when we go to take ZQ from them
[ 2013.08.29 20:51:05 ] Rasta Bigboom > obviously we request that CVA and severance remain neutral in this situation
[ 2013.08.29 20:51:51 ] Equinox Daedalus > well i'd ask that you wouldn't ofb but that isn't ofc something that would happen i guess. if you have intrested in taking back all of catch cva holds some catch systems so i don't see how that would mean anythign but shooting us at the end of the day.
[ 2013.08.29 20:52:59 ] Rasta Bigboom > Unless your willing to withdrawl peacefully
[ 2013.08.29 20:53:59 ] Rasta Bigboom > Idont want to run into a roleplay situation if we can avoid that
[ 2013.08.29 20:54:10 ] Rasta Bigboom > after the last time
[ 2013.08.29 20:55:09 ] Equinox Daedalus > well either which way ofc we end up losing and don't see how thats good for us.
[ 2013.08.29 20:55:19 ] Rasta Bigboom > Spin it as welcoming back an old friend if you can
[ 2013.08.29 20:55:44 ] Rasta Bigboom > there will be a benefit, we get the old roaming gangs back instead of the constant blobs
[ 2013.08.29 20:57:13 ] Rasta Bigboom > this is good for both CVA pilot development and -A-
[ 2013.08.29 20:57:51 ] Rasta Bigboom > as time progresses and we set our sights elsewhere
[ 2013.08.29 20:58:02 ] Rasta Bigboom > and we begin to take other regions
[ 2013.08.29 20:58:14 ] Rasta Bigboom > we may be willing to conceede space at a later date
[ 2013.08.29 20:59:08 ] Rasta Bigboom > or if your willing to rent those systems from us, we could consider that as an option
[ 2013.08.29 20:59:44 ] Rasta Bigboom > as that is the income that will help fund our war machine, ultimatley we would be renting those systems out
[ 2013.08.29 21:01:22 ] Rasta Bigboom > Are you still here Equi
[ 2013.08.29 21:01:25 ] Equinox Daedalus > well don't see who would pay rent to be hotdropped by us all day everday
[ 2013.08.29 21:01:42 ] Rasta Bigboom > lolz you would be surprised
[ 2013.08.29 21:01:58 ] Rasta Bigboom > I have already pre-rented much of catch
[ 2013.08.29 21:02:04 ] Equinox Daedalus > hah fools.
[ 2013.08.29 21:02:26 ] Rasta Bigboom > consider this, your the crazy dude who wants to live next to us ;-)
[ 2013.08.29 21:02:43 ] Equinox Daedalus > /emote shrugs, i live where i live, hasn't changed in 8 years
[ 2013.08.29 21:02:52 ] Rasta Bigboom > Amen to that
[ 2013.08.29 21:03:54 ] Rasta Bigboom > So, in the intrests of working this out equinox, would you be willing to ceede your systems in catch for the time being until we have secured and begun future expansion elsewhere
[ 2013.08.29 21:05:09 ] Equinox Daedalus > we'll would haveta talk that over some, not really in favor of dropping it atleast.
[ 2013.08.29 21:05:34 ] Rasta Bigboom > we could pay for the IHUBS and TCU's if you wish
[ 2013.08.29 21:06:03 ] Rasta Bigboom > and Alhana may be willing to pay for the upgrades in the systems if they can be confirmed
[ 2013.08.29 21:07:45 ] Rasta Bigboom > as for Volt, we request that you allow us to deal with them 1 on 1, on ZQ, we will not encorach into Providence for sov warfare with the exception of the occasional SBU drop in Y-MP for giggles
[ 2013.08.29 21:08:13 ] Rasta Bigboom > you of course return the favor
[ 2013.08.29 21:08:30 ] Rasta Bigboom > Keep in Mind, this is not herculetz, nor the past leaders of -A-
[ 2013.08.29 21:08:46 ] Rasta Bigboom > you know me long enough that when I give my word I keep it
[ 2013.08.29 21:08:47 ] Equinox Daedalus > well if we come to reasonable peaceful decision then i'd expect volt to follow though with that some agreement we would make on our end.
[ 2013.08.29 21:10:16 ] Equinox Daedalus > i'll copy paste for a bit of feedback and get back with you if thats acceptable on other things.
[ 2013.08.29 21:10:40 ] Rasta Bigboom > Equi, Im not asking to invade volt, we simply wish to play with them a bit
[ 2013.08.29 21:10:56 ] Rasta Bigboom > that dude phlanax makes us laugh
[ 2013.08.29 21:11:00 ] Equinox Daedalus > well no i'm just stating that if we agree to drop sov in catch it will be all of us
[ 2013.08.29 21:11:21 ] Equinox Daedalus > shooting volt/sbuing whatever is different.
[ 2013.08.29 21:11:53 ] Equinox Daedalus > tldr if i let you shot them without doing anything on my end it will cause me more problems then if you kick me out of catch
[ 2013.08.29 21:12:35 ] Equinox Daedalus > even if someone is a retard or does retarded things they are my retards
[ 2013.08.29 21:12:56 ] Rasta Bigboom > well, what im looking for here is a Non Invasion pact between CVA and -A- as we traditionally had...in the future if we can ceede territory in catch we will notify you as we have in the past
[ 2013.08.29 21:13:29 ] Rasta Bigboom > however, this is a new -A-, with a new Command
[ 2013.08.29 21:13:40 ] Equinox Daedalus > oh i'm aware totally different -a-.
[ 2013.08.29 21:14:06 ] Rasta Bigboom > I wouldnt say totally different, just changed a little
[ 2013.08.29 21:14:12 ] Rasta Bigboom > hopefully for the better
[ 2013.08.29 21:14:29 ] Rasta Bigboom > most of the Ego's went to PL
[ 2013.08.29 21:14:31 ] Equinox Daedalus > well i mean to say wasn't infereing it was the same or anything else, everythign changes not the same old cva either as well.
[ 2013.08.29 21:14:39 ] Equinox Daedalus > hah always egos irregardless
[ 2013.08.29 21:14:39 ] Rasta Bigboom > with the exception of me of course
[ 2013.08.29 21:18:43 ] Rasta Bigboom > Do you wish to talk on teamspeak?
[ 2013.08.29 21:19:04 ] Rasta Bigboom > or is this conversation sufficent?
[ 2013.08.29 21:19:51 ] Equinox Daedalus > ahh dreaded voice coms, i perfer text for a record to copy paste. anyways as i said at current i will get back with you with an answer as the sov aspects of catch anyways
[ 2013.08.29 21:20:04 ] Equinox Daedalus > as your busy with other systems atm its probally not a huge priority for you anways
[ 2013.08.29 21:20:09 ] Alhana Starrbreeze > 0/ gonna sleep. Need to prepare my our sbus for providence. hugs
[ 2013.08.29 21:20:24 ] Rasta Bigboom > Alhana be nice
[ 2013.08.29 21:20:27 ] Rasta Bigboom > ;-)
[ 2013.08.29 21:20:37 ] Alhana Starrbreeze > just a joke
[ 2013.08.29 21:20:42 ] Alhana Starrbreeze > tired today
[ 2013.08.29 21:20:44 ] Equinox Daedalus > /emote shurgs, i thought you said this was a new -a- sounds like same old same old
[ 2013.08.29 21:20:56 ] Equinox Daedalus > drink vodka !
[ 2013.08.29 21:21:34 ] Alhana Starrbreeze > I dont drink vodka and never say it to russian
[ 2013.08.29 21:21:38 ] Rasta Bigboom > Equinox, as I said, its a changed -A-, but still the same Bloodthirsty mentality
[ 2013.08.29 21:22:09 ] Alhana Starrbreeze > I dont drink a beer as well
[ 2013.08.29 21:22:14 ] Rasta Bigboom > Our friends are our friends
[ 2013.08.29 21:22:21 ] Rasta Bigboom > our enemies are our enemies
[ 2013.08.29 21:22:32 ] Alhana Starrbreeze > rode on my bicycle 30 km today
[ 2013.08.29 21:23:12 ] Equinox Daedalus > ouch! well as i said i am not meaning to be rude or anything ofc but will get back with you about this.
[ 2013.08.29 21:23:57 ] Rasta Bigboom > nods, be aware that while I am certainly willing to be pateint on CVA, I cannot promise the same for the VOLT system
[ 2013.08.29 21:24:23 ] Rasta Bigboom > it was thier actions that precipitated this event
[ 2013.08.29 21:24:24 ] Equinox Daedalus > well i'm sure it won't be "long" probally get back with you tommorow on it
[ 2013.08.29 21:25:02 ] Rasta Bigboom > we look forward to the conversation Equi
[ 2013.08.29 21:25:02 ] Equinox Daedalus > well as you guys have said your taking back all of catch so it would of been inevitable anyways
[ 2013.08.29 21:25:08 ] Equinox Daedalus > /emote shrugs
[ 2013.08.29 21:26:09 ] Equinox Daedalus > and wasn't meaning anything ill toward -a- or anything just from what i was told it was cleared by -a- that this happened, you don't happen to have the logs of volt and alaha speaking?
[ 2013.08.29 21:26:35 ] Rasta Bigboom > I have some of them that were cut and pasted to -A- command
[ 2013.08.29 21:26:38 ] Rasta Bigboom > 2 seconds
[ 2013.08.29 21:26:41 ] Equinox Daedalus > kk
[ 2013.08.29 21:28:03 ] Rasta Bigboom > do you have skype?
[ 2013.08.29 21:28:21 ] Rasta Bigboom > add hawkcrest1 please
[ 2013.08.29 21:28:31 ] Rasta Bigboom > it will make it much easier to cut and paste
[ 2013.08.29 21:28:44 ] Equinox Daedalus > can just shoot me a mail rustingword@hotmail.com
[ 2013.08.29 21:28:52 ] Equinox Daedalus > don't have skype no
[ 2013.08.29 21:28:59 ] Equinox Daedalus > well techinally i probally do
[ 2013.08.29 21:29:10 ] Rasta Bigboom > nevermind sent via eve mail
[ 2013.08.29 21:30:08 ] Equinox Daedalus > yeah i saw
[ 2013.08.29 21:31:03 ] Equinox Daedalus > kk as i said i'll get back with you tommorow on this stuff
[ 2013.08.29 21:32:16 ] Rasta Bigboom > nods, like I said Equi, I would prefer to see -A- and CVA work out its old freindship...NIP with roaming
[ 2013.08.29 21:32:23 ] Rasta Bigboom > those were better days
[ 2013.08.29 21:33:05 ] Equinox Daedalus > werll hard when you "we come bearing gifts" of taking what you have
[ 2013.08.29 21:33:09 ] Equinox Daedalus > gotta understand that : )
[ 2013.08.29 21:33:13 ] Rasta Bigboom > as it stands there are still those advocating invasions, Myself and Gree are advocating against them
[ 2013.08.29 21:33:39 ] Equinox Daedalus > sure
[ 2013.08.29 21:33:46 ] Equinox Daedalus > always going to be the case.
[ 2013.08.29 21:34:36 ] Rasta Bigboom > I know you have never really liked me dude, but I have always liked the old CVA practices, they just didnt fit well for my corp
[ 2013.08.29 21:35:11 ] Rasta Bigboom > I prefer to see you guys where your at, and wish no ill will on you
[ 2013.08.29 21:35:57 ] Equinox Daedalus > well my dislike or like for you has nothing to do with diplomacy
[ 2013.08.29 21:36:38 ] Equinox Daedalus > try not to let my personal issues get in the way of things as i said its just a matter of what you want to do conflicting with what we want to do
[ 2013.08.29 21:36:49 ] Equinox Daedalus > at the end of the day thats all there is
[ 2013.08.29 21:37:04 ] Rasta Bigboom > well, what is it you would like to do
[ 2013.08.29 21:37:18 ] Rasta Bigboom > mabe its somthing I can work towards for you in the future
[ 2013.08.29 21:37:44 ] Rasta Bigboom > scratch our back today we return the favor later
[ 2013.08.29 21:38:06 ] Rasta Bigboom > and whatever your dislike of me, you have to admit I keep my word
[ 2013.08.29 21:39:37 ] Equinox Daedalus > humm......well keep what we have at current but that doesn't sound like that is in the cards atleast in terms of things. and as far as dislike its more "oh that fucking hawkcrest guy"
[ 2013.08.29 21:40:35 ] Rasta Bigboom > :-) I dont know, if I should consider that a compliment or what
[ 2013.08.29 21:41:04 ] Equinox Daedalus > well as i said its like..."oh man that guy been shootin him for ages and vise versa"...
[ 2013.08.29 21:41:28 ] Rasta Bigboom > there was a time when I used to help lead your fleets
[ 2013.08.29 21:41:36 ] Equinox Daedalus > yup i kow.
[ 2013.08.29 21:41:41 ] Rasta Bigboom > that seems to have been forgotten over the years ;-)
[ 2013.08.29 21:41:51 ] Equinox Daedalus > hah no not by me
[ 2013.08.29 21:42:17 ] Equinox Daedalus > hardly forget anything.
[ 2013.08.29 21:42:32 ] Equinox Daedalus > as i said thou different paths neither good or bad just differnt.
[ 2013.08.29 21:42:54 ] Rasta Bigboom > I dont remember who it was in CVA that ultimatley pissed me off...somthing to do with telling us that we couldnt shoot some dudes in outerring that attacked us, and that I needed to tell my guys to come back to providence and patrol lowsec ammar space
[ 2013.08.29 21:42:55 ] Equinox Daedalus > also if your going to bully us out of catch whats to say your going to stop there?
[ 2013.08.29 21:43:56 ] Equinox Daedalus > as you asy there is sabre=rattling for shooting provi anyways so /me shrugs
[ 2013.08.29 21:44:03 ] Rasta Bigboom > You, have my word that is all we are seeking Equnox
[ 2013.08.29 21:44:14 ] Rasta Bigboom > I would hope that would be enough for you
[ 2013.08.29 21:44:48 ] Rasta Bigboom > the sabre rattling is comming from Skilo, and I think Alhana was considering it until we all advised against it
[ 2013.08.29 21:44:49 ] Equinox Daedalus > we'll i'm considereing instead of flat out saying "go fork off" anyways.
[ 2013.08.29 21:45:03 ] Equinox Daedalus > so ofc it does
[ 2013.08.29 21:45:15 ] Equinox Daedalus > hwoever as you say your not the end line of leadership either.
[ 2013.08.29 21:45:37 ] Rasta Bigboom > leadership ends at myself and Alhana
[ 2013.08.29 21:45:45 ] Rasta Bigboom > he is the final decision
[ 2013.08.29 21:46:01 ] Rasta Bigboom > there is a 7 man leadership council
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